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the decreasing market share signifies its performance in the auto
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by all the players, we can sum up that 10 lakh units have been sold in
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Honda- 129627, Suzuki- 25439, Yamaha- 22710 and Mahindra- 15854,
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have a waiting period ranging from 2- 8 months, whereas Bajaj bikes
are overstocked with the dealers. A dealer's sale ranges from 150- 500
units per month depending on the area, but the inventory stock is
800-2500.

OPM PRESSURES TO INCREASE SEQUENTIALLY:-
Input costs have increased recently following the spurt in steel,
rubber and aluminum prices. Thus, Margins across the Auto sector are
expected to contract sequentially to reflect higher input costs. This
will result in very high operating margin pressures.

VALUATION:-
Considering the fact that the scrip is currently trading at a PE of
over 20x which seems high as the scrip is available at the premium, we
advice investors to stay away from this counter.

2 years ago Bajaj Auto was trading at a price of Rs. 150 (ex-bonus
adjusted). On 25th November, 2010 the stock rose to touch the Rs. 1664
level i.e. more than 1000% increase in price. This is not
fundamentally or technically justified.
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[CAR-PGa] Re: A little something the Chairman sent me.

P.S. Upon reflection, I think it was RPGA, not GAMA, that we had a
problem with many years ago.
Sorry for mixing up my anagrams.;-)

On Dec 27, 10:53 pm, jethrotull <mickieandfr...@charter.net> wrote:
> Hi everyone.  Hope y'all had a Merry Christmas and got plenty of
> gaming in over the holidays.
> Look, I don't know what to make of this letter I got from Paul
> Cardwell, so I decided to post it here and let everyone read it---no
> editing done, this is just a the way I got it; a simple cut & paste
> (which by the way is the extent of my computer graphics knowledge.
>
> It seems Paul thinks I've insulted him and if I did, I apologize.  I
> read something that I didn't agree with, and I wrote a note basically
> saying same.  In fact
> as I re-read the posts, I find I agree with him on most counts.  I
> don't think he wants game conventions to get a bad reputation, and
> neither do I.  We seem (or I thought we seemed) to have othet things
> in common as well--like freedom of speech without being bullied.
>
> When I first met Paul, it was by phone, waaay back when D&D was still
> owned by TSR and I answered an small ad about CAR-PGa.  He was
> gracious and informative.  He was a Methodist minister, and I grew up
> Methodist, so I felt a kinship of sorts.  He explained the toils and
> troubles CAR-PGa had had with GAMA and some other insider stuff that,
> of course, I was completely ignorant of.  I thank him for widening my
> horizons.  Then, about a year later, I made a horrible faux pas.  You
> know when your sub to the newsletter ends?  And Paul puts a check mark
> on the back page indicating it was time to renew?  Well, I took great
> offense at that--somehow thinking it was wrong to assume I was going
> to renew, or wrong becuase it seemed rude, or really--I was just an
> ass that day.  Paul wrote me a note explaining the situation and
> offering to NOT use the checkmark method with me again and letting me
> know that at one time he thought it would be fun if I lived closer, so
> we might game together--but now he had changed his mind.  I can't
> blame him.  As I said--I was an ass, and far from tactful or
> considerate.  I did apologize, and have tried to send pertinent
> material for the archives over the years (though my contributions are
> admittedly very slim).
> Now that the history lesson is over, recently it has seemed to me that
> a lot of this forum has devolced into political discussion and
> intrigue that I find....BOOO--RING.  If you can figure out the what
> the last 3 paragraphs of Paul's missive to me (republicrats, and
> Soviet non-people people, and Al Gore) mean, and how they are relevant
> to role-playing games, please write me and let me know.  I felt the
> same way before:  there was some discourse a while back about the Boy
> Scouts, and I never followed that one into this little niche hobby we
> all share.  But, I figured--no skin off my nose.
>
> As for Paul's mention that tradition dictates that all posts remain
> true to the title, as I said earlier, I'm not a computer person.  As I
> also said, I'm a freedom person and I don't believe going off an a
> tangent in a forum about fantasy games that encourage thinking is
> going to cause the world to slip off its axis.
>
> To all of you, a Happy New Year!  And now, a few words from the
> Chairman:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Tact  and consideration?  Is that what you call an ad hominem
> outburst?  You have previously asserted your t-totaler status,
> therefore how can my comments be directed at you personally?
>
> If there has never been an Animal House game convention (and to my
> limited knowledge there has not), does it follow that there can never
> be, no matter how the environment is changed?  That has always been my
> concern, considering that high-priced alcohol has always been
> availble, but not free and promoted.
>
> Yes, the "previous letter" was quite innocent and on the general
> subject at hand, but you chose to employ the tactics of the schoolyard
> and the reprehensible aspects of the recent election and accuse the
> opposition of the tactics you are emplying in order to make any
> defense against that accusation easily reduced to "you're one too".
> Yes it worked quite well in the last election campaign (although not
> quite as effective as the Soviet "nonperson" tactic used by
> Republicrats against me), but just as that has damaged the country, so
> your tactics are damaging CAR-PGa.
>
> second letter
>
> It is the tradition in online discussions to keep to one topic.  You
> kept to one topic (personal attacks on me) in two postings in the same
> day, it shouldn't be too hard to separate two topics into two postings
> on the same day.  The reason for this is particularly relevant to CAR-
> PGa - archival cataloging - as any of the multitudinous professional
> librarians and published researchers in the group can explain.
> Remember, the Internet was originally set up for communication between
> the Pentagon and the various universities they had under contract.
> When Congress expanded it to the general public (and Al Gore was
> indeed a sponsor of that bill), many of the same academic features
> were retained, this being one of them.
>
> As for parsnips, I have not tried them either, connecting them to the
> great line from Pogo, "There's nothing worse than unignited love,
> 'cept maybe coddled parsnips or french-fried watermellon!"  And I
> would put Andre Segovia or Pepe Romero, or on a different but related
> instrument, Ravi Shankar, far above Page and Hendrix.
>
> Paul

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[CAR-PGa] A little something the Chairman sent me.

Hi everyone. Hope y'all had a Merry Christmas and got plenty of
gaming in over the holidays.
Look, I don't know what to make of this letter I got from Paul
Cardwell, so I decided to post it here and let everyone read it---no
editing done, this is just a the way I got it; a simple cut & paste
(which by the way is the extent of my computer graphics knowledge.

It seems Paul thinks I've insulted him and if I did, I apologize. I
read something that I didn't agree with, and I wrote a note basically
saying same. In fact
as I re-read the posts, I find I agree with him on most counts. I
don't think he wants game conventions to get a bad reputation, and
neither do I. We seem (or I thought we seemed) to have othet things
in common as well--like freedom of speech without being bullied.

When I first met Paul, it was by phone, waaay back when D&D was still
owned by TSR and I answered an small ad about CAR-PGa. He was
gracious and informative. He was a Methodist minister, and I grew up
Methodist, so I felt a kinship of sorts. He explained the toils and
troubles CAR-PGa had had with GAMA and some other insider stuff that,
of course, I was completely ignorant of. I thank him for widening my
horizons. Then, about a year later, I made a horrible faux pas. You
know when your sub to the newsletter ends? And Paul puts a check mark
on the back page indicating it was time to renew? Well, I took great
offense at that--somehow thinking it was wrong to assume I was going
to renew, or wrong becuase it seemed rude, or really--I was just an
ass that day. Paul wrote me a note explaining the situation and
offering to NOT use the checkmark method with me again and letting me
know that at one time he thought it would be fun if I lived closer, so
we might game together--but now he had changed his mind. I can't
blame him. As I said--I was an ass, and far from tactful or
considerate. I did apologize, and have tried to send pertinent
material for the archives over the years (though my contributions are
admittedly very slim).
Now that the history lesson is over, recently it has seemed to me that
a lot of this forum has devolced into political discussion and
intrigue that I find....BOOO--RING. If you can figure out the what
the last 3 paragraphs of Paul's missive to me (republicrats, and
Soviet non-people people, and Al Gore) mean, and how they are relevant
to role-playing games, please write me and let me know. I felt the
same way before: there was some discourse a while back about the Boy
Scouts, and I never followed that one into this little niche hobby we
all share. But, I figured--no skin off my nose.

As for Paul's mention that tradition dictates that all posts remain
true to the title, as I said earlier, I'm not a computer person. As I
also said, I'm a freedom person and I don't believe going off an a
tangent in a forum about fantasy games that encourage thinking is
going to cause the world to slip off its axis.

To all of you, a Happy New Year! And now, a few words from the
Chairman:


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Tact and consideration? Is that what you call an ad hominem
outburst? You have previously asserted your t-totaler status,
therefore how can my comments be directed at you personally?


If there has never been an Animal House game convention (and to my
limited knowledge there has not), does it follow that there can never
be, no matter how the environment is changed? That has always been my
concern, considering that high-priced alcohol has always been
availble, but not free and promoted.


Yes, the "previous letter" was quite innocent and on the general
subject at hand, but you chose to employ the tactics of the schoolyard
and the reprehensible aspects of the recent election and accuse the
opposition of the tactics you are emplying in order to make any
defense against that accusation easily reduced to "you're one too".
Yes it worked quite well in the last election campaign (although not
quite as effective as the Soviet "nonperson" tactic used by
Republicrats against me), but just as that has damaged the country, so
your tactics are damaging CAR-PGa.


second letter


It is the tradition in online discussions to keep to one topic. You
kept to one topic (personal attacks on me) in two postings in the same
day, it shouldn't be too hard to separate two topics into two postings
on the same day. The reason for this is particularly relevant to CAR-
PGa - archival cataloging - as any of the multitudinous professional
librarians and published researchers in the group can explain.
Remember, the Internet was originally set up for communication between
the Pentagon and the various universities they had under contract.
When Congress expanded it to the general public (and Al Gore was
indeed a sponsor of that bill), many of the same academic features
were retained, this being one of them.


As for parsnips, I have not tried them either, connecting them to the
great line from Pogo, "There's nothing worse than unignited love,
'cept maybe coddled parsnips or french-fried watermellon!" And I
would put Andre Segovia or Pepe Romero, or on a different but related
instrument, Ravi Shankar, far above Page and Hendrix.


Paul

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I'm not clear about this one either. I find that if anyone takes the
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Because I consider tact and cosideration the two most important human
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proud to be in that Venn Diagram. But just to be certain---I do not
support a return to some frat-boy style of game con (which by the way,
must predate me, because I've never seen anything remotely resembling
Animal House at a game convention. I also said that I don't drink at
all, so if there weer a ban on alcohol at ORIGINS, DragonCon, or any
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to play games, meet people I usually only see a couple of times a
year, etc. And the etc. could include going out for dinner or meeting
in the hotel bar and if my fellow patrons care to drink, it doesn't
bother me.
As I said, the previous letter may have been completely innocuous
and not implying at all that I was somehow pro-booze. But for the
sake of completeness, I am not.
That is all.

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[CAR-PGa] Re: Gaming conventions worsening

Interesting how these topics drift off the subject until they are discussing something markedly different from the initial topic.  As long as game conventions have been in hotels, there has been alcohol on site.  However, at least around here cons do not "encourage" drinking, nor, in fact, do the hotels which get this money, at least beyond having it available - and in one venue in the lobby under the grand staircase to the mezzanine where the main con activities are held.  Most cons have now outgrown that particular venue and gone to larger sites.  Many cons have a "no booze in the game rooms" clause in their rules, and the rest do by custom.

Now I realize that cons vary by region.  I also realize that CAR-PGa is an international body and that in some of these cultures alcohol is consumed with meals by all those who have been weaned. This has nothing to do with the original point.  

If you go back far enough, you will find that it arose from a report that there was some unstated convention considering featuring unlimited free beer to all over 21 and not noticeably drunk - the sort of thing beer companies claim is the case at spring break towns.  I assume that this convention also has the usual attractions of games, celebrities, dealers' room, and such.  It wasn't mentioned, nor was the name of the con so I could find out for myself.

There were two Supreme Court cases which might involve the missing quote, both were concerned with obscenity.  First was Roth v US  354 US 479, most noted for Justice Potter Stewart's quote that "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it."  The court went on to try, restricting it to "prurient interest" and "no socially redeming purpose", as defined by "contemporary community standards."  However, that immediately became whatever the local oligarchy said it was.  This was cleared up by Jacobellis v. Ohio  378 US 184 which defined "community" as the entire United States, and would have probably gone beyond that if not for the limits of their jurisdiction.  The quote involving not restricting adults to that suitable to children came from a concurring opinion in Jacobellis by Justices Brennan and Goldberg.  "State and local authorities might well consider whether their objectives in this area would be better served by laws aimed specifically at preventing distribution of objectionable material to children, rather than at totally prohibiting its dissemination."   It is about bscenity, but might be stretched to include underage drinking.  Still off-topic.

I have this court material at hand because of a run-in I had with the local library before I was able to get my own Internet connection.  I was researching cultures for "anthropological role-playing" (basing characters on actual cultures to bring in all the other cultural baggage from weaponry to how infants were carried).  I think it was Minoan, where the men were topless and the women had necklines below the breasts, which caused it, but I was threatened with banishment for "viewing pornography".  I wrote eight pages of protest and won.  It is available on .pdf to anyone interested.

If one is talking about promoting frat boy game conventions, go ahead.  You will be undermining two decades of work by CAR-PGa in trying to get away from that stereotype and encouraging participation by those outside the stereotype, such as women,  children, ethnic minorities, etc. but you will get your free beer.  If you eat before time, you can even get drunk before being cut off since it slows the absorption of alcohol.  Enjoy.  CAR-PGa will keep picking up the pieces as usual.

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[CAR-PGa] the whole alcohol-at-gamecons thing

Most game cons I attend have 2 policies regarding alcohol:
1) They discourage the prcactice of "bringing one's own"; and
2) They encourage purcases from the bar.

I've seen a few--a VERY few--plastered gamers, and yes, they are a
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or banning them from future attendence at the cons they offended.

For the V AST majority of those who can have a game, beer, pretzels,
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Most cons I attend, being public, leave it to individual's discretion
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solution.

But---and this is being written by a tee-totaller---drinking and
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[CAR-PGa] Re: Gaming conventions worsening

> Now, boiled down, the question is how many parents are going to want their kids
> to go to a game convention where one feature is free beer for anyone over 21 and
> not visibly staggering?  Is the answer self-evident or do we have to toss this
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Sure, let's do the survey. But after you've asked them if they'd let
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their kids go to /any/ game convention. Then ask them if they would go
to such a convention themselves, or any convention. Finally, ask them
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My point here is, your concept of the underlying question is only true
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to keep away kids who otherwise would have attended. There's a nice
Supreme Court quote I'm having trouble tracking down about not
allowing what is suitable for children to determine what is available
to adults, and while they weren't talking about free beer, I think the
idea that we shouldn't let the only conventions available to adults be
the ones that will attract the most kids is a good one.

Besides, I learned this from organizers of a general fandom convention
(including gaming) that attracts thousands every year. Clearly /some/
parents let their kids show up. Mine did, when I was in high school.

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Wrote my own article which references yours:
http://www.examiner.com/rpg-in-national/operation-payback-hactivist-claims-chaotic-good-alignment

One amusing addition (but then, I'm easily amused):

The phrase was lost on the BBC News, who conflated "chaotic good"
alignment with a "big aim" to "create chaotic good." Two very
different things, but then only D&D geeks will know the difference.
Watch the video for more.

On Dec 13, 2:15 pm, WJ Walton <rpgadvoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> (Cut and pasted from The Escapist Blog -www.theescapist.com/blog)
>
> Sometimes it's easy to forget how much D&D has affected popular
> culture. "Operation Payback" is a team of hacktivists who have been
> showing their support for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange by hacking
> sites for Mastercard and PayPal, and TIME Techland writer Ishaan
> Tharoor notes that "Coldblood," one of the prominent members of this
> group, revealed his alignment in a recent interview:
>
> "The UK's Guardian interviewed one who claimed to be a spokesman, a 22-
> year-old "who wished to known only as 'Coldblood'" and said his
> ambition was to be "a force for 'chaotic good.'"
>
> Now, as many Techland readers will know, "chaotic good" isn't just
> some silly phrase made up by a rogue tween techie. It's a long-
> standing alignment in role-playing games, invented first and foremost
> for the Dungeons & Dragons franchise."
>
> Even better, Tharoor takes a moment to show his own true geek colors
> when he mentions his D&D preferences:
>
> "In truth, "chaotic good" was always the alignment your humble scribe
> chose for his characters (who, if you must know, always ended up being
> dashing, ambidextrous half-elven swordmasters)."
>
> Read the full article here:http://techland.time.com/2010/12/09/wikiwarriors-invoke-dungeons-drag...

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