I commend to your reading Chauncy DeVega's "What Richard Iott's Nazi Re-enactment Really Means", just so I am not blamed for my opinion being sui generis. If you get it through AlterNet, October 15, you get a bunch of useful video links, including that "unit's" recruiting film. Amongst other things, it actually shows the group in a real re-enactment, as opposed to the press stills which shows them standing around in #1, rather than combat, uniform. In the recruiting film note their member being "shot" after surrendering. Propaganda forever.
Also note that in my original comments, I contrasted Wehrmacht (regular army) with Waffen SS (Nazi troops), as did DeVega. Since the point is not re-enactments (not really the same as LARP, being scripted), I will spell it out: the selection of a favored group of traitors to imitate, the inauthentic representation of that unit, the distinct pro-Nazi slant in their recruitment film, and the fact that this nation is still legally at war with that one (no peace treaty has been written, much less ratified by two-thirds of the US Senate), makes it obvious where their loyalties lie.
I would also question the use of "War of Northern Aggression" (even if spelled correctly). Fort Sumpter did not fire first. My family has no oral history of this period because members were not only on both sides in the war, but at least on two occasions, in the same battle! Family peace dictated. Also the Texas counties along the Red River (including Fannin) voted for union by a 3:2 margin - and that is where my loyalties lie.
This may be drifting off topic, but long before developing Mythworld (subtitled "realistic fantasy"), I developed a serious respect for real history, and a disdain for the fake claiming to be real. Yeah, fake it if you wish, but at least have the honesty to label it as fake. That includes the glorious plantation parasites as well as the self-proclaimed master race - two peas in the same pod.
Paul Cardwell
From: jethrotull <mickieandfred1@charter.net>
To: CAR-PGa <car-pga@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 5:14:02 PM
Subject: [car-pga] Re: Congressional Candidate Condemned for Role-Playing a Nazi
I saw the infamous photo, and I try as I might,
I just couldn't get as righteously indignant as Bill Maher did over
it.
You see, as mentioned earlier, Iott also admitted to portraying a
UNION soldier in re-enactments of the War of Northern Agression.
If he's free to wear THAT uniform in public, then anything goes. :-)
In truth, I support anyone's right of self-expression. I'm an old
fart, too,
but if a group wanted to do a historical re-enactment of a Klan raid
and lynching,
or one that recreates the government massacre of Union workers at
Homestead,
I'd support that as well. It's a RE-ENACTMENT----it's not real. You
know,
like when Bruce Willis saves the planet with nukes? Or when somebody
dresses up in the bat-suit--and we all go to those big air-conditioned
buildings
and watch them? Now, I have my doubts as to whether a re-enactment
of
WW2 atrocities or KKK lynchings would be popular, but that's not the
point;
not all movies do big box office. Some are duds. So it is with re-
enactments.
Some are popular and people come out and watch; some, not so much. I
rather think the Wiking get-togethers fall into the latter category.
On Oct 13, 1:37 am, Paul Cardwell <hippogriff...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Since I am one of the few with direct memories of those days, I have a different
> reaction than an SS = LARP villains equation. If he were doing a Wehrmacht
> unit, I would have no problem with it. However, the SS were not just defending
> their country, but took a second oath to Adolph Hitler personally. All were
> Nazis. The Wikings were recruited primarily from occupied Norway (Quislings),
> with lesser numbers from Denmark, Netherlands, Swedish volunteers, and the
> Baltic Republics. They were traitors against their own countries. While many
> SS units behaved quite properly under the rules of war, Wikings were responsible
> for a higher percentage of atrocities than other SS units, excluding only the
> Totenkopf units which were in charge of the concentration and extermination
> camps.
>
> This is a permanent alignment - costume and equipment costs alone makes it well
> beyond the usual to play both sides of the same period. (It is reported that he
> also did Civil War reenactments, on the Union side.) Thus it is quite different
> from the tabletop or even usual LARP where one may be hero or villian from one
> session to the next - or if played really properly, stages in between like real
> people.
>
> Yes, politics aside, there is a real difference, and my party doesn't even have
> a candidate in that race.
>
> Paul Cardwell
> born a month after the Third German Empire
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Mike "Talien" Tresca" <tal...@toast.net>
> To: CAR-PGa <car-pga@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 8:08:40 PM
> Subject: [car-pga] Congressional Candidate Condemned for Role-Playing a Nazi
>
> When you take the politics out of the equation, this discussion is
> fundamentally about whether or not it's okay for role-players to play
> villains.
>
> http://www.examiner.com/rpg-in-national/congressional-candidate-conde...
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